Family Tree (Shajarah) of Naqvi Sadaat from Bukhara

Within many Sadaat [descendants of Prophet (pbuh) via Hadhrat Fatima (sa) and Imam Ali (as)], there has been a tradition of preserving and keeping the family tree (shajarah) up to date as it passes down to the next generation. The shajarah that we have, seems to have been officially documented or created on Tuesday, 10 November 1885 CE (3rd Safar, 1303 Hijri) – as per the signature on it. Most of the text on it is written in Farsi and Arabic so I am unable to understand it, but I decided to “digitize” our family tree. The family tree begins from Imam Ali (as); however I am starting the tree here from Prophet Ibrahim (as) and going through Abd al-Muttalib to Abu Talib and then to Imam Ali (as)  [as opposed to going through Abd al-Muttalib to Abdullah to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and then to Fatima (sa)].

  • Prophet Ibrahim (as)
  • Prophet Ismael (as) [1]
  • Nabit
  • Humaysa
  • Udad
  • Adnan [2]
  • Ma’add
  • Nizar
  • Mudhar
  • Ilyas
  • Mudika
  • Khuzayma
  • Kinana
  • Nadr
  • Malik
  • Fihr [3]
  • Ghalib
  • Lu’ayy
  • Ka’ab
  • Murrah
  • Kilab [4]
  • Qusay [5]
  • Abd Manaf
  • Hashim
  • Abd al-Muttalib
  • Abu Talib
  • Ali (as)
  • Husain (as)
  • Zayn ul-Abideen (as)
  • Muhammad al-Baqir (as)
  • Ja’far al-Sadiq (as)
  • Musa al-Kadhim (as)
  • Ali al-Ridha (as)
  • Muhammad Taqi al-Jawwad (as)
  • Ali Naqi al-Hadi (as)
  • Syed Ja’far [6]
  • Syed Ali Asghar
  • Syed Abdullah [7]
  • Syed Ahmed
  • Syed Mahmood [8]
  • Syed Muhammad
  • Syed Ja’far Muhammad Hussain
  • Syed Ali al-Moeed
  • Syed Jalaluddin Surk-Posh Bukhari [9]
  • Syed Sultan Ahmed Kabir
  • Syed Makhdum Jahaniyan Jahangasht [10]
  • Syed Abdullah Qital
  • Syed Qasim
  • Syed Muhammad Hussain
  • Syed Zain ul-Ibad
  • Syed Muhammad Jilal
  • Syed Muhammad Ali Bukhari
  • Qadhi Sulayman Shah
  • Syed Muhammad Musa
  • Syed Sharf ud-Deen
  • Syed Abdul Ghani
  • Syed Muhammad Momin
  • Syed Jamal ud-Deen
  • Syed Muhammad Saleh
  • Syed Abd al-Nabi
  • Syed Anwar Shah
  • Syed Munawar Shah
  • Syed Fazal Hussain Shah
  • Syed Wilayat Hussain Shah
  • Syed Ijaz Hussain Shah
  • My father
  • Myself

Footnotes


[1] There is discrepancy on the number of descendants after Ismael (as) before they reach Adnan. Different historians and genealogists have come up with varying conclusions, some listing dozens of individuals after Ismael (as) before reaching Adnan and some listing only 4 individuals between Ismael (as) and Adnad. For the purpose of keeping it short, I have opted to go with the what Tabari records in his Tarikh: Umm Salamah (the wife of the Prophet): I heard the Messenger of God say, “Ma’add b. Adnan b. Udad b. Zand b. Yara b. A’raq al-Thara.” Umm Salamah: Zand is Al-Hamaysa, Yara is Nabt and A’raq al-Thara is Ishmael, son of Abraham. [Source: The History of Al-Tabari, Volume VI, Muhammad At Mecca, translated and annotated by W. Montgomery Watt and M.V. McDonald, pp. 38].

[3] His mother was Hind bint Surayr and was born in 208 CE. He is the founder of the tribe of Quraysh.[4] He was born in 373 CE and his wife was Fatima bint Sa’ad who bore him Qusay.

[5] Born in 400 CE, he was the great-grandfather of Abd al-Muttalib. He reconstructed the Ka’aba from a state of decay and built the first town hall (Dar an-Nadwa) in Arabia.

[6] He died in 271 AH and is buried in Samarra.

[7] He moved from Samarra and settled in Mashhad.

[8] He moved from Mashhad and settled in Bukhara (present day Uzbekistan).

[9] Born in 595 AH (1199 CE), he was a Suhrawardi Sufi saint and was called surkh-posh because of a red mantle he often wore. He migrated from Bukhara to South Asia in the 13th century.

[10] Born in 1308 CE (17 Sha’ban, 707 AH) and lived in Makkah for 7 years earning his living by writing the copies of Quran at night. He lived 2 years in Medina and once led the prayers in Masjid al-Nabawi. He died in 1384 CE (10th Zhul Hijjah, 785 AH).

51 thoughts on “Family Tree (Shajarah) of Naqvi Sadaat from Bukhara

    • Ws; brother can you please explain why it is not safe and what possible harm could occur due to posting it. 97% of the people on the list are no longer living in this world and thus can’t be harmed physically by any human.

      • Salam
        Do you know how many Sons Imam Ali Asghar had? My Family tree matches your till Imam Ali Asghar and then instead of Sye Abdullah I have Syed Ismayeel Shah 🙂

      • Assalamu’Alaykum Aal-e-Imran.

        You say that 97% of the people on this list are no longer living in this world and thus can’t be harmed physically by any human.

        I agree the people listed on the family tree can’t be harmed, however, you have created problems by publishing your family tree on the internet. The first problem has been pointed out already, that people can copy the names of the tree for a self-benefit. Is that even possible? Of course it is. I have seen this happen wity my own eyes. It’s actually happening in Pakistan as we speak.

        Secondly, I assume that the family tree in the picture in Farsi and Arabic belongs to not just you, but your family as it was presumably passed from generation to generation. It therefore holds sacred value. With that being said, did you first come to an agreement with your family on the release of this family tree?

        I don’t personally know who you are or who your family is, but if I was to publish my families sacared lineage to Imam Ali and my father found this out – it would bring him to tears, and shame upon me for doing such a heinous act. Think about it. I say it’s a crime.

        I am glad my genealogy has been preserved by my family and never seen on the internet or any book. I myself would never even think about publishing it. With that being said, I genuinrly and sincerely sympathise with those Syed’s who go and find their genealogy on the internet. Really.

        In any event I have sadly seen the publication of many family tree online, including the family tree of today’s scholars. I can’t say how accurate any of them are but I do believe that Syed of the old were not like the Syed of today. The internet is a market place, would you freely go into a market and hand out your sacred lineage? Syed of the old were concious human beings, aware of the importance of protecting and preserved the deen of their grandfathers.

        • Wa Allaikum Salam

          The family trees of the Sadaat have been published for centuries and have been accessible by many individuals for centuries, in fact books have been written utilizing these family trees and they have also acted as primary sources for referencing purposes.

          People have been copying names since before the creation of the internet. Abuse of something does not entail its prohibition necessarily so your argument doesn’t hold any strenght unless you can show me a better reason.

          The family tree of the Sadaat is not a document that has been copyrighted by capitalistic slaves, that I need to ask permission or even arrive on an agreement before publishing it. Family trees of the Sadaat have been published – and sometimes for very real purposes and causes since centuries.

          I am sorry that you feel that there is a relationship of “shame” between a family tree and it being published. Unfortunately, I do not see this relationship being dictated anywhere, so I am not sure what socially conditioned you to expect to feel this way.

          I belive you are confusing too many things and trying to throw in points to try to solidify your initial point. You haven’t really given any real reason for why it should not be put on the net – where are you getting the fact that Sadaat of the past would not reveal their lineages or that they would not mention their lineages? In Arab culture, knowing the lineages was a skill and tool that many were equipped with. Many were aware of the geneologies of the Sadaat and there was nothing un-sacred about it being known or revealed.

          You really need to explain where and how you are coming up with these emotional relationships between “shame”, “sacred” to something being published or known by others.

          • You say the family trees have been published for centuries? Ok, so how many books are accessible online that contain these family trees? As you hopefully see, a great deal of family trees are not covered on the internet. The books you are referring to that are written using these family trees cannot be found online.

            Next, you say that people have been copying since before the creation of the internet. Essentially, by publishing your family tree, you are acting as a facilitator without knowing, making it easier for the fabricators to claim lineage to the blessed bloodline.

            You then say, abuse of something does not entail its prohibition necessarily so your argument doesn’t hold any strenght unless you can show me a better reason. I had to read this part a few times as I could not understand how this flows with what you said earlier. Abuse means to use something for a bad purpose. Our concern is that by publishing a family tree online, it becomes vulnerable to abuse by anyone.

            You then say, the family tree of the Sadaat is not a document that has been copyrighted by capitalistic slaves, that I need to ask permission or even arrive on an agreement before publishing it. With all due respect, this makes little to no sense. As such, I am unable to comment.

            You then say, Family trees of the Sadaat have been published – and sometimes for very real purposes and causes since centuries. Again you say they have been published. Where online do you see several published lineage’s? Really, out of all places, the internet is the last place to make this information accessible. Why? It becomes open to abuse.

            You say, I am sorry that you feel that there is a relationship of “shame” between a family tree and it being published. Based on the points you made above, hopefully you can see where the relationship of shame between a family and it being published lies.

            You then say I believe you are confusing too many things and trying to throw in points to try to solidify your initial point.. and son on. I am not trying to solidly my point. I am commenting out of a genuine and real concern.

            Yes, you can reveal your family tree, mention your family tree as you correctly mentioned that this was a common practice with past scholars. However, you have failed appreciate the way they did thus contextually in my opinion. They revealed their lineage to other scholars, to governments and rulers and perhaps to ordinary people when and where it was appropriate. All I am saying is that, publishing it online is not appropriate and by saying this I am not trying to discredit your blogging Masha’Allah you have some amazing posts on here.

            Lastly. I don’t mean to come across disrespectful brother. I felt the need to make a point because I felt that it was a valid one to make. I saw a few others post parts of their tree on the internet and was troubled by it since I don’t want anyone taking parts of what you have preserved considering or many generations. The internet is not an appropriate and safe place for the publication of a sacred family tree.

            Best wishes

            Syed

        • hi..my self mahammadirfan saiyed from ahmedabad , gujarat, india. I have lost my shijra at the time of my grandfather , can anyone help me to get it back ?? As my father tried a lot but they failed to get back as we have not so much needed documents in hand..please if any ..my number: +91-9722437369…you can also whatsapp or msg me..allah aapko is nek kam ka badla jarur dega

  • Ye Shajra Oper Se Theek Go Sakta Hy Mgr Neechy Se Nahin Q K Abdullah Qatal (r.a) Ka koi beta Qasim Ya Hussain name Ka Nahin Hy

  • Hello all… I’ll tried my mother naseeb, but until now I can’find it. My grandpa is Syed Ismail bin Syed Mohammed Alim Sahib from Koothanallur, came to Indonesia, we have other family in Mumbai Syed Amir Ali n Syed Hameem in Ahmedabad. Anyone know or have information? My grandpa said his descendant came from Bukhara too. Thanks 4 all. May Allah blessing u all. Aameen

  • Can anyone plz help me out abt my family tree.
    My grandfather is syed mehatab shah and his father waliat shah. I want all the details above them as we lost our shajra

  • As salamo Alaikum ! I have gone through the all question and answers and agree with you.
    I am writing a History of the “‘Bukhari Sadat”‘ and almost have written up to 785 Hijri . I have also confronted with these two type of thoughts, which makes hurdles in my research. Some peoples agree to be published their Shajara, while the other insist to sop publishing such secret things.
    The plea of the second thought is that those who are not syyids and in the search of such links to be useful to link themselves in syyid genealogical tree . I also confronted some of the cases like this. Who contact me send me their Shajara and found not syyids.
    I appreciate your affords . Please carry on.
    Regards

  • Salaam, dont really write my name like that though but since u all know who my forefathers are so i wanted to let u all know my full name. anyone of u residing in lhr lets meet up and see eachothers shajra…i hv in my possession the books that i can verify all u ppls family tree….im da descendant of hazrat pir makhdoom jahanian jahan gasht and my shujra has the stamp of headquarters of bukhari sadaat Uch Sharif. God bless u all…but plz remember whoever says im syed give him respect not cuz he is or he aint a syed but cuz of Maula Ali AS

    • Thanks to you brother Aal-e-Imran, I have got a link to a person who is a direct descendant of Syed Makhdum Jahaniyan Jahangasht a saint whose mausoleum is near Sirsi Moradabad district U.P. India, as my mother used to tell. I am a Naqvi Syed from Hyderabad India and I have been told that my great grandfather Syed Ahmed Hussain Naqvi (d. 1910) had migrated to Hyderabad via Kolkatta as a child with his father Syed Wilayat Hussain Naqvi after Ghadar (1857) from Lucknow. I have no idea where the Abao Ajdad of Syed Wilayat Hussain Naqvi came from. Maybe they settled near Amroha in Moradabad district where every second Muslim person is a Naqvi. As for my mother Syeda Noorunnisa Begum, she was a Zaidi Syed from Sirsi, near Amroha and used to say that her lineage comes from Syed Makhdum Jahaniyan Jahangasht. Now I am really confused if her lineage is from the same Syed Makhdum Jahaniyan Jahangasht who is buried in Uch near Multan in Pakistan, she should be a Naqvi Syedani, whereas she used to take pride in her being a Zaidi, and despite being married to my father Syed Hussain Naqvi, never changed her surname to Naqvi as is the custom in this part of India. Otherwise there has to be another saint by the name Syed Makhdum Jahaniyan Jahangasht who is a Zaidi. But a lot of Naqvi’s of Amroha connect their genealogy to Syed Makhdum Jahaniyan Jahangasht.

      In the meantime I am trying locate the forebears of my grandfather. Can anybody help me in this regard?

    • عزیزم سید شرجیل عباس
      اُمید ہے آپ خیریت سے ہونگے۔ آپکی تحریر دیکھی میرا تعلق سادات سے ہے میں نے اُچ شریف شجرہ نویس سے بھی رابطہ کیا خود بھی گیا مگر مقصد حل نہیں ہوا ۔میں ۱۹۴۷ میں ضلع گورداسپور مشرقی پنجاب سے ھجرت کر کے لاھور میں مقیم ہوں ۔شجرہ گُم ہے ،مجھے چھے سات پُشت بزرگوں کگ نام یاد ہیں۔ آپ سے ملنا چاہتا ہوں اپنا پتہ دے سکتے ہیں ۔۔ میں ضعیف آدمی ہوں عمر اس وقت۸۴-۸۵ سال ہے ۔
      وسلام و دعا

  • I am bukhari syed. I am desperatley trying to find out my shajra. We r from sialkot kotli loharan pakistan. My fathers name is Muhammad Ilyas Shah. Please help.

  • Asalaam alaikum
    I am a bukhari syed and am looking for my shajra. My family are from sialkot kotli loharan pakistan. My fathers name is Muhammed Ilyas Shah.

  • I myself am I proud decendent of Jahaniyan Jahangasht my family tree is in new Delhi shahi Mosque and in uch Sharif as well copied down on another paper which my uncle has and is very old plus has been photocopied because it’s to old to be touched

  • AoA,
    I am working on a topic “Sons to 11 Imam” With ref to Khawaja Meer Dard + Baha Uddin Naqshbandi also Khwaja Moeen Uddin Chishti Ajmiri. Could brothers on this blog extend me help with ref to sons & their sons (10th Imam to his grandsons i.e. Father–>Son–>son)

  • I am maternally related to Shah Jalaluddin Surkh Naqvi. I am always quick to point out that he and his ancestors are Hanafi. I am Najeeb ut Tarfain Syed from Sadat Amroha.

    I have been having a problem of late. I am meeting many people claiming to be Syed from Hyderabad but look, smell, talk, behave like Hindus more than arab or Banu Hashim. I believe the connection to the Prophet S to be extremely sacred but I find it disturbing such people are making claim to it yet have no nobility, generosity, honor, heya, humility, leadership, courage that comes with being Syed. In fact, they have hindu like tendencies of selfishness, greed, lack of manners, arrogance, etc. I don’t see ANY of Imam Hasan or Imam Hussain in them. Hussainis have generosity running in their blood (it was Imam Hussain’s inheritance from the Prophet S).

    Can someone help why Syeds from South India are bringing a bad name to Syeds worldwide and what can be done to rectify this? I am having a hard time accepting them to be linked to the Prophet S and I have met other Syeds and Quraishi who feel the same way. I know in our family we have a rule not to marry Ahmadis and not to marry Hyderbadis. I always find it interesting how South Indian people claiming to be Syed have no capacity for Ishq of the Prophet S and make the whole matter of Ishq to be superficial and external.

  • ماشاء اللّہ شاہ صاحب بہت اچھا کام کر رہے ہیں ۔ محترم کیا اچھا ہوتا کہ آپ ہر ایک جدامجد کےتمام بیٹوں کا بھی ذکر ہوتا ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔سید ذیشان حیدر میرپور آذاد کشمیر اباواجداد غالباً انڈیا

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